2011 Preference Point Summary Report Elk

[firemouse5]

Does any of this make sense to anybody else? Every summary for every 200 series draw hunt, states that the lowest amount of points entered into each draw was 1 point and not 0. Does that mean that nobody with 0 points in any hunt was entered into any draw. Or does it mean that if you technically had 0 points........ it is considered 1 point in the computer program. I find it hard to believe that nobody with 0 points applied for any hunt at all. With that being said, My 1 point should have been listed in the 2 point column because it was my 2nd year without a draw tag (2010/2011). My last Desolation tag was 2009. Here is the link with the numbers.

http://www.dfw.state.or.us/resources...ary%202011.pdf

Everybody in our hunt party of 5 people had 1 point each for an even 1 point average for the 2011 250x hunt. We now have a 2 point average for 2012.

Now here is where I am a little more confused. The numbers listed for 250x state that the total number of applicants with 2 points or more equaled 701 first choice applicants and there were 755 first choice applicants with 1 point or less. 75% of that is 821 tags designated for those with preference points.

If I was part of the 701 people with enough points to get a tag out of 821 (821/1095) dedicated tags and .... How in the world did I not get a tag?

All documents provided by ODFW state "2011 first choice applicants". Nowhere does the synopsis, point summaries or any other document state "2011 first choice applicants / with points only". So if people with 0 points are nowhere to be found in the summary, every stat listed must be +1 compared to what yours or my personal record states online.

What is your take on this?

[delkhunter]

Well looking at the stats, you where not guranteed a tag with one point last year. There was a total of 755 applicants in the 1 point pool (20 of them NR) and only 120 res.(8 NR) out of that pool drew a tag. Based on just the 1 point pool you had about a 16% chance of drawing without taking into consideration the random draw. There was a total of 2215 1st choice applicants of those 1456 had 1 point or more. http://www.dfw.state.or.us/resources...y%20Choice.pdf. Good new is, you should be guaranteed a tag this year with 2 points!

[bo4elk]

The summary report is condensed. They have used the same format since the very first year. Back then, the report was printed out on a line printer and I suspect the condensed format was to save paper.
When looking at the report, there are some obvious data points that one is interested in but they cannot be garnered without doing a little math. As you point out, the applicants with 0 points are not listed. To get these numbers, you have to subtract the applicants that applied with points from the total applicants that applied.
You also cannot determine the number of residents that applied at each point level without a little math (subtract NON-RESIDENT PNT APPS from ALL PNT APPS).
Keep in mind that you are also looking at just the 75% pool draw. Although you can determine the number of tags drawn in the 25% draw, you cannot tell who drew them.
Regarding your question delkhunter has answered it, but I’ll reiterate. There were 701 people with 2 point or more that drew last year. You had one point last year. When the draw moved down to the 1 point level, your point level, there were only 120 tags left to allocate and there were 755 applicants competing for them – hence a 16% chance of drawing.

[WapitiBob]

You drew in 2009 points set to zero, 2010 zero points for the draw and one awarded after when you didn't draw, 2011 one point for the draw and one awarded when you didn't draw giving you 2 for 2012.