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01-30-2012, 11:31 AM
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Tuna!
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HB4005 (Wolf Kill Income Tax Credit)
SUMMARY
Establishes credit against income taxes in compensation for livestock killed by predators.
Applies to tax years beginning on or after January 1, 2012.
Takes effect on 91st day following adjournment sine die.
(b) 'Predator' means a predatory fur-bearing mammal belonging to a species that is listed as a threatened species or an endangered species pursuant to the federal Endangered Species Act of 1973 or ORS 496.171 to 496.182.
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Last edited by loper; 01-30-2012 at 11:32 AM.
Reason: additional information
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02-02-2012, 07:43 AM
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Tuna!
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Re: HB4005 (Wolf Kill Income Tax Credit)
This bill is scheduled for a public hearing and possible work session today at 1pm.
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02-02-2012, 12:23 PM
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King Salmon
Join Date: Nov 2004
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Re: HB4005 (Wolf Kill Income Tax Credit)
Seems fair to me, the hard part is going to be getting the certificates of cause of death.
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02-02-2012, 01:21 PM
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King Salmon
Join Date: Aug 2009
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Re: HB4005 (Wolf Kill Income Tax Credit)
What good does a tax credit do when you do not have the tax load to use it?
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02-02-2012, 10:32 PM
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Ifish Nate
Join Date: Jul 2009
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Re: HB4005 (Wolf Kill Income Tax Credit)
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02-06-2012, 08:03 AM
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Tuna!
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Re: HB4005 (Wolf Kill Income Tax Credit)
House Committee on Agriculture and Natural Resources
Date: Tuesday-February 7 Time: 1:00 P.M. Room: HR D
Work Session
HB 4005 Establishes credit against income taxes in compensation for livestock killed by predators.
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02-06-2012, 08:08 AM
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Sturgeon
Join Date: Apr 2002
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Re: HB4005 (Wolf Kill Income Tax Credit)
Quote:
Originally Posted by loper
SUMMARY
Establishes credit against income taxes in compensation for livestock killed by predators.
Applies to tax years beginning on or after January 1, 2012.
Takes effect on 91st day following adjournment sine die.
(b) 'Predator' means a predatory fur-bearing mammal belonging to a species that is listed as a threatened species or an endangered species pursuant to the federal Endangered Species Act of 1973 or ORS 496.171 to 496.182.
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great another special interest tax subsidy. no thanks.
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02-06-2012, 08:10 AM
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King Salmon
Join Date: Aug 2009
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Re: HB4005 (Wolf Kill Income Tax Credit)
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Originally Posted by El-Kabong
great another special interest tax subsidy. no thanks.
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It is not a subsidy when it is to pay for damage caused by a public resource.
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02-06-2012, 08:15 AM
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Sturgeon
Join Date: Apr 2002
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Re: HB4005 (Wolf Kill Income Tax Credit)
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Originally Posted by Keta
It is not a subsidy when it is to pay for damage caused by a public resource.
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of course it is. predators exist and this small group of people want to be paid when it impacts them negatively. SUBSIDY. buy insurance if you want to protect your assets
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02-06-2012, 08:20 AM
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King Salmon
Join Date: Aug 2009
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Re: HB4005 (Wolf Kill Income Tax Credit)
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Originally Posted by El-Kabong
of course it is. predators exist and this small group of people want to be paid when it impacts them negatively. SUBSIDY. buy insurance if you want to protect your assets
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Wolves are not the same. If you want wolves you should have to pay for the damage they cause on private land.
Attitudes like this will force ranchers to do illegal things to protect what their family has built over several generations.
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02-06-2012, 08:43 AM
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Sturgeon
Join Date: Apr 2002
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Re: HB4005 (Wolf Kill Income Tax Credit)
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Originally Posted by Keta
Wolves are not the same. If you want wolves you should have to pay for the damage they cause on private land.
Attitudes like this will force ranchers to do illegal things to protect what their family has built over several generations.
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No, those people will do what they re going to do. My opinion is my opinion.
I have insurance to protect my property from damage and I don't get a subsidy from the government. IMO Wolves are the same. Every subisidy starts with a special interest making a good case for it and once it is created it is sacrosanct. I for one don't want to pay for any more subsidies for special interest groups.
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02-06-2012, 07:33 PM
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Sturgeon
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: Vernonia
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Quote:
Originally Posted by El-Kabong
I don't want deer and elk on my land so I should be able to go out and shoot them anytime I see one?
Nuisance animals should be handled appropriately but leaving that in the hands of individual land owners is likely to result in extirpation again.
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Actually, a depredation program already exists to deal with chronic issues from deer and elk.
If a rancher or farmer can show evidence of crop depredation, ODFW can issue kill permits to the landowner.
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